pitchers  ant to bad but the video is kinda bad it skips time im going to upload them to youtube with the ones from my jvc hi def 1080p im going to take more video with it but it looks like the cameras were used maybe they were bought used and had a problem then sent back and they resold them before i really start bad mouthing them im going to try the other one to see if it has the same problems and then ill do the finial word on them and all the details and a video will be uploaded to my Channel @ funtimeusa34